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Sunday, March 14, 2010

LDS Church reasserts it's Political Neutrality while incuraging activism.

The First Presidency of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints recently issued a letter . . . encouraged Latter-day Saints to attend their local precinct caucus meetings.

In doing so the Church has also reasserted it's stance on being politically neutral:

"The Church does not:

  • Endorse, promote or oppose political parties, candidates or platforms.
  • Allow its church buildings, membership lists or other resources to be used for partisan political purposes.
  • Attempt to direct its members as to which candidate or party they should give their votes to. This policy applies whether or not a candidate for office is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  • Attempt to direct or dictate to a government leader.

The Church does:

  • Encourage its members to play a role as responsible citizens in their communities, including becoming informed about issues and voting in elections.
  • Expect its members to engage in the political process in an informed and civil manner, respecting the fact that members of the Church come from a variety of backgrounds and experiences and may have differences of opinion in partisan political matters.
  • Request candidates for office not to imply that their candidacy or platforms are endorsed by the Church.
  • Reserve the right as an institution to address, in a nonpartisan way, issues that it believes have significant community or moral consequences or that directly affect the interests of the Church."
On a somewhat related topic the LDS Church is also encouraging it's U.S. Members to "participate in the 2010 United States Census", sighting that "The Church also uses census data for planning purposes."

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Saturday, December 26, 2009

Seth Hollist for Public Office.

Check out Seth's Latest News and Opinion editorials as the Collin County Independent Examiner.



Some day I hope to to run for office as a Moderately Conservative candidate that's more interested in doing what's right for his constituents, rather then selling out to special interest groups, behind closed doors dealings and a power hungry freedom grabs. Instead I find myself with a deep desire to defend the U.S. Constitution as it was originally intended, instead of trying to re-interpret based on what happens to be trendy for the day. I also don't find myself being particularly strong towards one party or another as they all seem to think they same type of government is good at all levels, as apposed to me, who believes that government has different rolls at different levels: for example, a Federal/National/World Government is there to set standards that insure the States work together as a single unified nation while protecting the nation as a whole from destructive outside influences; beyond this any Federal government should be very limited as to it's influences upon the States. The States should be more moderate in providing social services to it's people, and enabling the local and county governments to organize community efforts to look after each other.

This is in contrast to the Republicans who tend to like big government (even under Ronald Regan the size of the federal government grew in some ways) so long as it benefits free enterprise and their own "conservative" views of socially acceptable behaviors and morality. While I certainly think that a moral nation will be more prosperous with less social unrest, I believe more strongly in one's ability to chose for one's self, and do not believe any amount of government controls or laws can ultimately keep a society moral but should rather be focused on protecting life liberty and the pursuit of happiness (but providing no guarantees to any).

My ideas also contrast the Democrats in that I do not believe it's the Federal governments roll to protect the individual, nor provide anything for them. Rather I believe these should provided on a limited basis by the States, and to a greater degree by local governments and communities. After all, it's not truly charity if you are forced into it, and I believe we would all be more generous, giving, and moral as a society if we had a bigger stake in taking care of our fellow neighbors, rather then paying someone else to do it for us.

If I could, I would be a member of the Constitution Party (they certainly think I am), on a national level if they didn't seem so self righteous about certain aspects of their party platform. However, on a State and local level, I would probably differ from them to some degree.

Libertarians have some good ideas, but they often take them too far and ignore the importance of some of the things that Federal government does to provide standards and order to the nation as a whole. They also ignore the importance of the Federal government being at least moderately involved in international affairs as part of it's efforts to promote world peace and protect the nation from destructive out-side forces.

The Green party is focused on things that I believe have been overly exaggerated. While I agree that having clean air and a clean environment improves quality of life for everyone, it has to be balanced with reality and a sense that Man is also a part of nature as the dominate creature on this earth. I believe we are meant to take care of this earth, and use it to our benefit while maintaining those uses and it's resources for the future.

Other parties just don't have enough of a presence in the political spectrum to have gotten my attention.



Check out some of my other posts on this blog:

The Clean Slate Amendment

Bad Gun Laws

Affirmative Action Abolished

The Importance of Self Governance

My commentary on the 2009 Presidential Inauguration

Seth.Hollist.org Moves to Spaldam's Rants

- Posted by Seth Hollist

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Thursday, July 16, 2009

Death of a Republic, Long Live Socialism.

"Beware the greedy hand of government, thrusting itself into every corner and crevice of industry." -- Thomas Paine (1737-1809)

Sure, the government will tell us they need to push this health care plan right on through because it's what we need. We can't have little kids without armpits running around uninsured now, can we? Poor little Sally Muckenfuch has no eyelids AND no insurance. It's horrifying. So quick! Pass this 1,000 page legislation before anyone can think about it! In the off chance you do want to think about it and find out what this plan really means --- and what it's really about -- see Glenn's review of the plan. ( Transcript)

If you're worried about how complicated a government run healthcare system will be -- don't worry, this handy flow chart should help.

Glenn reads through just a few of the thousands of personal stories regarding the new health care proposals, and the pattern is clear: this Health Care plan is a job killing machine. Read the stories from radio today. (Transcript)

The new Health Care plan will eventually force the sun setting of all private insurance.



I wrote some letters to my U.S. Representatives in the house and the senate. Here's what I had to say:

Please introduce DownsizeDC.org's "One Subject at a Time Act" (OSTA). You can find the text of the legislation here:http://www.downsizedc.org/osta-legislation.shtml
When things like the Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid filing a hate crimes amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill come up, I can help but feel outraged by such underhanded idiocy. What does a Defense Authorization Bill have to do with Hate Crimes (Aren't all crimes hateful in some way already anyway)? If we could only find some way to keep such things from happening, such as requiring the title of a bill to actually describe it's contents, and forbid anything from being in the bill that doesn't match the title.

You don't need to redesign the American health care system in one giant step. Instead, please start by passing a law that would permit me or my employer to purchase health insurance regulated by other states. This would make major medical coverage affordable for millions of Americans, by allowing people to sidestep the special interest coverages mandated in many states. (Canned statement by DownsizeDC).
Less government involvement in Health care is the real answer, not total control. You can't fix a problem by making it bigger, any more then you can fix a blotted government by giving it more control and power over the people.

I am aware that the federal government has future unfunded liabilities estimated at $101 trillion. Please stop ignoring this problem. Please start reducing spending now. Balance the budget now. And start retiring the debt now so you can stop spending so much of my tax money on interest charges. (Canned Statement by DownsizeDC)
Replacing Medicare with "Universal Health Care" will not solve this problem. It will only make it much much worse. It will destroy our republic which I love so dearly.

Aren't all crimes hateful? They why do we need a separate law that tries to determine what we are thinking or feeling while committing a crime? Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) filed a hate crimes amendment to the Defense Authorization Bill. Please don't let him get away with this underhanded backdoor dealing that messes with our Nations Heros ability to do their job.

Judicial Nominations
  • Sonia Sotomayor has been giving lip service to make her self appear like a Justice that would truly uphold the constitution; however, her actions tell a different story:
  • She claims to be opposed to using other countries' laws, however, just last April she stated that "nothing in the American legal system stops us from considering the ideas that (international) law can give us."
  • She agreed with Chairman Pat Leahy that the 2nd Amendment was an "individual right"; however, she was part of a judicial panel that ruled the 2nd Amendment does not apply to states and that it is not a "fundamental right."
  • Ms. Sotomayor said that judges should not "prejudge," despite her statement in 1994 that "prejudices are appropriate".
  • Sen. Kohl falsely stated that Ms. Sotomayor was overturned by the Supreme Court only three times. In truth seven of her decisions have been overturned--three in this year alone!
  • Justice Sotomayor is not fit to serve on the Supreme Court. Please do not confirm her nomination.
I would encourage everyone to wright their representatives with their own thoughts and ideas. All this only took me a few hours to research compose and send. Doing that even just once a month, or even better, once a week, would make a big difference in letting our representatives know we are watching them, and make us much better educated voters so we can take our country back. It is after all a government, for, of and by the people. If We the People aren't involved then we have only ourselves to blame.

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Things I agree with

I don't think being a minority
makes you a victim of anything except numbers. The
only things I can think of that are truly
discriminatory are things like the United Negro
College Fund, Jet Magazine, Black Entertainment
Television, and Miss Black America. Try to have
things like the United Caucasian College Fund, Cloud
Magazine, White Entertainment Television, or Miss
White America; and see what happens...Jesse Jackson
will be knocking down your door.

Guns do not make you a killer. I
think killing makes you a killer. You can kill
someone with a baseball bat or a car, but no one is
trying to ban you from driving to the ball game.

I believe they are called the
Boy Scouts for a reason, which is why there are no
girls allowed. Girls belong in the Girl Scouts! ARE
YOU LISTENING MARTHA BURKE ?

I
think that if you feel homosexuality is wrong, it is
not a phobia, it is an
opinion..

I have the right 'NOT' to be
tolerant of others because they are different,
weird, or tick me off.

When 70%
of the people who get arrested are black, in cities
where 70% of the population is black, that is not
racial profiling; it is the Law of Probability.

I believe that if you are
selling me a milkshake, a pack of cigarettes, a
newspaper or a hotel room, you must do it in
English! As a matter of fact, if you want to
be an American citizen, you should have to speak
English!

My father and
grandfather didn't die in vain so you can leave the
countries you were born in to come over and
disrespect ours.

I think the
police should have every right to shoot you if you
threaten them after they tell you to stop. If you
can't understand the word 'freeze' or 'stop' in
English, see the above lines..

I
don't think just because you were not born in this
country, you are qualified for any special loan
programs, government sponsored bank loans or tax
breaks, etc., so you can open a hotel, coffee shop,
trinket store, or any other business.

We did not go to the aid of
certain foreign countries and risk our lives in wars
to defend their freedoms, so that decades later they
could come over here and tell us our constitution is
a living document; and open to their
interpretations.

I don't hate
the rich I don't pity the poor

I
know pro wrestling is fake, but so are movies and
television. That doesn't stop you from watching
them.

I think Bill Gates has
every right to keep every penny he made and continue
to make more. If it ticks you off, go and
invent the next operating system that's better, and
put your name on the building.

It doesn't take a whole village
to raise a child right, but it does take a parent to
stand up to the kid; and smack their little behinds
when necessary, and say 'NO!'

I
think tattoos and piercings are fine if you want
them, but please don't pretend they are a political
statement.. And, please, stay home until that new lip
ring heals. I don't want to look at your ugly
infected mouth as you serve me French fries!

I am sick of 'Political
Correctness.' I know a lot of black people, and not
a single one of them was born in Africa
so how can they be 'African-Americans'?
Besides, Africa
is a continent. I don't go around saying I am a
European-American because my great, great, great,
great, great, great grandfather was
from
Europe.
I am proud to be from America
and nowhere else.

And if you
don't like my point of view, tough...
- Posted by Alex.

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Friday, May 8, 2009

Obama's First 100 days

100 Days, 100 Mistakes

Hate Crimes? - aren't all crimes hateful?

Swine Flue Hoax

Mixed Messages On Torture

Controversial Appointments like Sebelius.





What Obama’s First 100 Days Have Meant for 50-Plus America

Truthfully, the Democratic party has had control over congress for over 2 years now, so what difference has he really made? All I can think of is emboldening the Liberal Democrats to start doing what they've been wanting to do since Clinton was tiring to work with a Republican majority in Congress.

His biggest blunder so far in my view is telling Turkey we are not a Christian Nation despite the fact that the U.S.A. was started by Christians seeking religious freedom.

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Thursday, February 26, 2009

Fairness is Not Dead

From NewsMax 26 Feb. 2009 by Jim Meyers:

"The Senate on Thursday overwhelmingly approved an amendment banning reinstatement of the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" that would threaten conservative talk radio.

Republican Sen. Jim DeMint of South Carolina attached the amendment, called the Broadcaster Freedom Act, to a bill giving the District of Columbia a voting representative in the House. It passed by a wide margin of 87-to-11"

[However...]

"Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois also won approval for an alternate amendment ordering the Federal Communications Commission to encourage radio ownership "diversity." It passed by a vote of 57 to 41."

What's worse is that these amendments aren't part of a Bill about the FCC, or use of radio waves, or some other media or broadcasting related bill. It's part of Bill dealing with giving Washington D.C. representation in congress.


So is the Fairness Doctrine really dead, or was it merely re-named?


From the Free Press Fairness Doctrine debate a "distraction" By Julian Sanchez 25 Feb. 2009:

"The new paper rejects the idea of a "political conspiracy" behind the renewed push for localism, noting that no censorship is involved because "no 'balance' of competing views is necessary, just attention to local concerns by the broadcaster licensed to use the local public airwaves to act as a public trustee of the community." But the 2007 paper argued that conservative programming was disproportionately prominent precisely because "the removal of ownership limits created artificial economies of scale for syndicated programming (dominated by conservative talk)" and because the erosion of "policies fostering local responsiveness" had facilitated a "move toward lowest common denominator syndicated programming." (Exactly what makes these economies of scale "artificial" is unclear.)"


"In his book "The Good Guys, The Bad Guys, and the First Amendment," former CBS president Fred Friendly quoted Bill Ruder, an assistant secretary of commerce under President Johnson: "Our massive strategy was to use the Fairness Doctrine to challenge and harass right-wing broadcasters and hope that the challenges would be so costly to them that they would be inhibited and decide it was too expensive to continue." President Richard Nixon also instructed his staff to use the doctrine as a whip against those attacking his Vietnam policies." - Politics and the Fairness Doctrine by Robert Zelnick 7 Mar 2009


Clearly there are those who wish to see more "Fairness" in the media; however, I've found the notion of how fair our radio waves, TV broadcasts and print media are, to be more an issue of opinion and biase rather then fact. After all, the whole notion of Conservative vs. Liberal, Left vs. Right, or something in between tends to change based on an overall consensus.

All my conservative friends are always complaining about how liberal the media is. All of my Liberal friends are always complaining about how conservative the media is. So which is it? Do we really want to the government passing legislation, holding congressional hearing, and threatening the operators license of our favorite radio station because they failed to mention someone else's obscure point of view on one particular topic?

Certainly that wouldn't happen would it? Well it actually already has happened, when the Fairness Doctrine what enforced by the FCC back in the 50's and 60's. During that same time McCarthyism was also used to destroy many otherwise innocent people's lives. Do we really want that happening again? Thanks to Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, we just might.

- Posted by Spaldam




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Saturday, January 24, 2009

U.S. Presidential Inauguration 2009

I've always considered myself to be someone of a moderate and yet still rather conservative in many ways. Despite the supposed liberalness of Obama, while listening to the Presidential inauguration this last week, I found many of his words to be particularly inspiring and truthful.

In particular he said, ". . . our economy is badly weakened - a consequence of . . . our collective failure to make hard choices . . . the challenges we face are real.  They are serious and they are many . . . but know this America, they will be met.  On this day, we gather because we have chosen hope over fear.  Unity of purpose over conflict and discord . . . the time has come to set aside childish things. The time has come to re-affirm our enduring spirit, to chose our better history, to cary forward that precious gift, that nobel idea . . . that God given promise that all are equal, all are free, and all deserve a chance to pursue their full measure of happiness . . . greatness is never a given.  It must be earned . . . it has been the risk takers, the doers, the makers of things . . . who have carried us up the log rugged path towards prosperity and freedom . . .  these men and women struggled and sacrificed and worked until their hands were raw, so that we might have a better life . . . this is the journey we continue today.  We remain the most prosperous, powerful nation on earth . . . but our time of standing pat, and protecting narrow interests and putt off unpleasant decision, that time has surly past. Starting today we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begging again the work of re-making America.  For everywhere we look, there is work to be done . . . some question the scale of our ambitions . . . there memories are short, for they have forgotten what this country has already done. What free men and women can achieved when imagination is joined to common purpose, and necessity to courage . . . Our challenges may be new, the instruments with witch we meet them, may be new, but those values upon which our success depends: honesty and hard work, courage and fair play, tolerance and curiosity, loyalty and patriotism; These things are old.  These things are true. They have been the quite force of progress throughout our history. What is demanded then is a return to these truths. What is required of us now is a new era of responsibility . . . we have duties to ourselves, our nation and the world. Duties that we . . . seaze glady.  Firm in . . .  giving our all to a difficult task . . . God bless the United Stats of America."

He stressed a need for unity within our nation to help fight off rumors and threats of our downfall.  I found a glimmer of hope that our federal government might get back to the things it's done best over the last century, and away from things it has done poorly.  Certainly many of the ideas he mentioned in his speech were debatable as to how effective or appropriate they will be, but I hope that he will have an objective and constitutionally sound view of what will work, and what is appropriate.

I still have a great deal of concern for many of the things I've heard are in Obama's agenda, but the more I get to know him, the more I find myself hopeful that he will make the right decisions to enable our country to stay hard at work; keeping it the greatest country on this earth.  He even talked about staying true to the values our founding fathers tried to instill into our government, and the hope that staying true to those values will allow America to once again be good example to other nations; ultimately making the world a safer place.

Leaders from my own church were present at the inauguration and expressed similar sentiments:

Church Leaders Attend President Obama’s Inauguration - LDS Newsroom

I was particularly pleased that Obama allowed God to be present at this event, and showed respect to the Almighty in many way; even though not as strongly as other presidents have in the past.

I'm sure as the next four years carry on, I'll find plenty to disagree with Obama on, but I also pray that we see this country make great progress down the right paths.  I find myself agreeing with Obama, that it will not happen without hard work from all of us, which reminds me of the famous words of JFK:  "ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country".

- Posted by Seth Hollist

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Friday, December 26, 2008

My letter to Obama

Although I do worry about some of the things Obama has on his agenda, that most Democrats (who now have majority control of congress) will likely support, I actually have found myself felling better about him then Mr. McCain. I never liked McCain (even being a moderately-conservative republican-leaning voter) as a presidential Candidate and never thought he had a chance at wining.

I actually ended up doing a protest vote for Baldwin (Constitution party) to express my dislike for the options (and wish more people would do this instead of voting out of "fear of the other guy" or simply not voting) as I fell my voice is heard more clearly this way.

I think Obama will actually turn out to be more moderate then some are painting him to be, but I'm also sure I'll find plenty to disagree with him on.

My suggestion is to all of you is to go to his website http://change.gov/page/s/yourstory and tell him your story. Be polite and honest, and you may be surprised at the kind of influence you can have towards affecting the kind of change you want to see. You likely won’t get exactly what you want but you’ll be much closer to it then what you'll get just sitting around and complaining about it.

Here is the letter I wrote:



I've always believed that life is hard. By this I don't mean malicious, but rather challenging. I've also learned that the things that are most worth living for are the things we must work hardest to archive, or that require the most work; such as faith, family, good friendships, and a prosperous career (yes in order of importance). For this nation to be great, the people in it need to be great, and that means a willingness to work hard to earn the things that are most worth having. Our society today feels too entitled to things they need to learn to work harder for, and then get rewarded generously for their hard work. The greatest generation in the country (40's & 60s), came out of the hardest times this country has ever seen; because they learned to work hard for what they had.

The roll I'd like my federal government to play in this, is simple yet effective regulation to insure that not only corporations are prevented from taking advantage and usurping power from the people, but that governments are also prevented from interfering with our ability to work hard to earn and keep the tings we work for.

I'd also like my government to focus more on the nations infrastructure, national defense (not necessarily foreign defense) and basic standards related to commerce and business; in such a way that it enables the individual to do a better job at archiving the goals they see best for themselves. I believe that as our government steps back, leaving behind opportunity, the people of this nation will find their ability to stand up and fill those opportunities; while having minimal government assistance to insure the people can take those opportunities they are not taken advantage of, through simple but affective regulations.

I believe the constitution of this great country has enabled this country to be great, so long as the people in it are willing to be great; however, it has been walked all over in the last few decades by both sides of the isle, judges who misinterpret it based on their own agendas, and the people who have willingly accepted laws that aspire to regulate and control our freedoms. From this has come some of the biggest problems this country faces today. Basically I see the main problem as an oversize federal government controlled by bureaucrats, special interests, and over-sized monopolistic corporations, that usurps powers that according to the 10th amendment belong to the individual states and the people. I believe our gun regulations and criminal laws are already stricter then is necessary to discourage criminal activity and may even contribute to the delinquency of otherwise law abiding people. This not to diminish the federal governments responsibility towards oversight, but certainly this oversight needs to not be so overly intrusive. The real answer to our social problems is not more regulations and laws, but to untie our hands and enable the people to step up and do what's right for their families and their communities.

Fiscal responsibility is also a big concern of mine, and I strongly disagree with the "Bailout" loans that have been given over the last few months; especially because it's causing a nearly 1 trillion dollar spending deficit - the highest in history - even when accounting for inflation. If there's one thing that I believe will dis-stabilize an economy and cause increasingly larger fluctuations in inflation/deflation and prosperity/poverty it is an economy fueled by debt with the unreasonable expectation of consistent future inflation; usually forced upon us by huge increases in the money supply through deficit spending, international borrowing, and printing of new money. This benefits the rich and the large corporations, but tends to only hurts the people this government is supposed to protect.

I must admit, President-Elect Obama, I did not vote for you, but I also did not vote for McCain, as I feel both parties have lost touch with the "average Joe". I truly hope that the change you endeavor to bring to this country will help enable an improvement in the life and livelihood of the "average Joe".

- Posted By Seth Hollist

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Monday, November 10, 2008

The end of the world as we know it?

I don't know about you, but I feel fine...

Elections are over and the people appear to have spoken in this certainly historic event, but how historic is it really? Certainly the U.S.A. has overcome a very dark chapter in it's history, and helped to realize the dream of Martin Luther King Jr., or so one would think that Affirmative Action no longer needs to be compelled upon us.

In the first few days after the election, signs of racism reared its ugly head, as a few hateful people vandalized and protested over President-Elect Obama, just because of his skin color. Others have also shown fear towards Obama's expected agenda that is expected to be very liberal and socialistic, as illustrated by a drop in stock prices the day after the elections. Many in the largely conservative state where I live have been out buying guns and ammo for fear that Obama will support initiatives to make them much harder to get; or possibly even try to take them away. Many also fear his socialistic programs and how they will affect the economy. I've even heard people go so far as to call Obama some kind of Anti-Christ. Of course I have a slightly different view of what/who is the ultimate Anti-Christ.

The big question I have is what can we really expect to change? Will we see the government stop spending billions more then it takes in? Will we see it become smaller, simpler, and more in favor of the people, rather then special interests? I don't see how with Obama's promised "Universal Health care" and the already 50+ Trillion in future obligations thanks to Medicare and Social Security; not to mention the friends he keeps that would cause anyone else to fail a top security FBI background check.

The last 8 years, with one of the most liberal Presidents we've probably seen since FDR's "New Deal" (especially for a supposedly conservative Republican) we've seen:

* The largest new entitlement in decades -- the prescription drug program
* Social engineering like "No Child Left Behind"
* Gutting of constitutional liberties in the name of "Homeland Security"
* Running-up vast deficits

Will Obama undo any of these? I doubt it. In fact I expect these things to only get further reinforced and promoted under Obama, and the now even more dominantly controlled Democratic Congress (they've had control for the last two years). Maybe we should have elected McCain? We'll actually he supported most of these things too. In fact most politicians support the same thing: bigger and more intrusive government as promoted by the special interests that pay for their election campaigns.

Who really voted for Obama? Out of about 300 million U.S. citizens, about 2/3 are eligible to vote, but only about 65 million of them actually voted for Obama. Is that true representation, with only about 1/3 of eligible voters actually voting for the new President-Elect? Is Obama really what most people in the U.S.A. want, or is he just the guy who convinced 7 million more people to vote for him then the next closet Candidate? My question has always been, "How do you get the 1/3 of the population that rarely votes to come put in a protest vote for an alternative party, so that their voice may at least be measured in some way?" I really don't care who they vote for, so long as they vote, even in protest so that we'd have some way to measure their discontent.

Despite all the doom and gloom that so many seem to think is just around the corner, and the fact that my vote for President sat along side just over 100 thousand others (less then 1% of the overall vote), I really don't feel a need for panic (I also voted for a handful of republicans, and for the first time a Democrat - because I was too upset with the 700+ Billion bailout to vote for the republican incumbent who won anyway).

I survived the Clinton gun bans (it really didn't ban guns, but rather cosmetic appearances and insignificant features), and bought my first guns when the ban was still in force. I live in an area that is booming economically, and were housing prices have actually gone up about 1% in the last six months. Why is all this? It's called stability. We didn't have unruly housing price increases fueled by risky government programs, we didn't have a work force entirely dependent on a single industry that has been hit very hard, and we have a truly conservative grass roots base. Not to say we don't have problems, but I get calls almost every week, off a nine month old resume posting, from recruiters asking me if I want to leave me cushy job for one that's out of state.

Don't get me wrong, I certainly have seen the signs that the economy has been weakening over the last couple of years (since the Democrats took majority control of Congress), and I do believe things could get much worse, especially depending on what Obama decides to do with his first priority of the economy.

The truth of it all is that the world is always changing, and often times that means some people have to find new jobs or even new careers. Other times is due to the constant threats of "wars, and rumors of wars" (JST Matthew 23-28). Despite what might go wrong, I try to remember the words of Christ that run rampant through the scriptures: "Fear not" for "the triumphing of the wicked is short". Personally, I am not afraid.

We should be more focused on the positive things in this world, such as: even with Democrats having majority control of Congress, they still don't have a supper majority that would allow for filibuster proof control; also, this control is only guaranteed for the next two years, when the people of this country - who after a long drawn out and highly televised election cycle have a much better idea of how to get involved early enough that they can truly make a difference - will have a chance to elect someone who truly supports them, instead of being left to choose between the lesser of evils.

On another positive note, at least as far as us traditional family supporters are concerned, the made up need for "gay rights" has had a very definite line draw in front of it. California for the second time has spoken out against same sex marriages, this time with an amendment to the states constitution, as dozens of other states have also done in the last few years.

Gas prices are down to their lowest this year, interest rates are once again at their lowest in history (although I don't think that's really such a good thing), stock prices are no longer over-inflated and some are even bargain priced. We can expect other prices to also come down as shipping and transportation costs also drop, and people lean up on their spending to hopefully start paying off all their debt. Some companies may even start making a prophet again as their expenses drop, and help with unemployment (although it still has a ways to go to hit the high of the mid 80's and much further to hit that of the Great Depression). Many of the financial companies have also hopefully learned their lessons about risky lending practices which should also help them to become stronger in the long run (if the government doesn't screw it up again).

". . . see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet." - Matthew 24:6.

- Posted By Seth Hollist



"Left Protests the Church's Winning Ways" by Tony Perkins from the Family Research Council - Nov. 7th 2008:

". . . The [LDS] Church's donations, estimated at roughly $22 million, fueled the hundreds of ad placements across the state that ultimately tipped the scales in the amendment's favor. Yesterday, 2,000 homosexual activists vilified the church, huddling outside the gate of an L.A. temple with profane signs and rainbow flags . . . At LDS headquarters in Utah, leaders called for a ceasefire with gay activists and "goodwill" on both sides. Unfortunately, that message has yet to stick with the "No on 8" crowd, which has lashed out with unprecedented aggression against the faith community . . . Once again, the Left is proving its unwillingness to practice the very "tolerance" they preach. FRC is proud of the example that the interfaith community has set on marriage. . ."

The LDS Church also Issued a statement on Proposition 8 protests

As well as a fallow up askingfor civility.

- Posted By S.J. Hollist

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Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Polygamy in Politics

The Associated Press released a story this week about Polygamy and Elections in Utah; specifically for the office of Utah Attorney General. I found two source for the article, and I'm sure there are more:

Comcast
Bay News 9

I've posted a few comments of my own on the matter of Polygamy and how it relates to "Mormons":
LDS vs FLDS
And a number of other posts back when I was actively involved with Delphi Forums that I need to find and re-post here (if anyone has a paid Delphi account and can search for all my old posts and provide me direct links to them, I would greatly appreciate it).

I was living in Utah when Attorney General Mark Shurtleff was first elected, and I most likely voted for him too. What I remember most about him is that he's always, from the beginning, been asked what he was going to do about the "Polygamy Issue". It's a question that's been asked in politics since around the time the "Mormons" moved west to settle Utah and escape persecution and threats of extermination.

Being a member of the LDS church, the polygamy issue is one that hits very close to home, and for many of us, it's something many of us wish we could put further behind us. One would think over a hundred years would be enough, but with radical self proclaimed "Fundamentalists" (like those in the FLDS Church) still lurking around in the tens of thousands, it's certainly not something that's easily dealt with, and that is miss-understood more often then not.

I remember Mark himself saying he would do what he could when he was first elected, but has on at least two occasions that I can recount, give a disclaimer that it would take time and wouldn't be easy to get the evidence needed for a conviction of the FLDS leaders; Texas is a good example of how difficult it can be to properly prosecute such secretive groups, when hundreds of kids taken from the FLDS's compound were ordered to be returned because of the improper procedures taken by the Texas Child Protective Services.

As I watched that tragedy of injustice unfold, I couldn't help but think how the children were being victimized by the State, rather then the State going after the true criminals and child abusers; not to mention that the Child Protective Services agency did a very poor job of verifying the claims; especially considering the third hand source of information they were given.

Today, the FLDS sect leader, Warren Jeffs, has now been in jail for a few years. Many other FLDS leaders are also now facing criminal charges in Texas. It seems that Mark is making a dent in this group, but with tens of thousands of people he's certainly going to need help from other States and federal authorities.

- Posted By Spaldam

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Monday, October 20, 2008

Anti-Bailout vs Anti-philibuster

You don't want to vote for the "bailout" supporters. You don't want to allow the Democrats to gain "rubber-stamp" power over the government. So who do you chose? It almost comes down to voting for the one you fear the least, but is fear really the right thing to base such an import decision upon? Will voting out of fear allow your voice to truly be heard? I say it wont, and have a better solution:

What if Obama won the election by a large margin, not because he got a lot of votes, but because John McCain got relatively few? What if all those other votes when to someone else; anyone else? Wouldn't that send a clear message that real the conservative base (not the "neo-cons") of the Republican party was fed up and refused to support a party that no long allowed their voice to be hear?

If this happened, the Republican party would either have to realize they need to come back to their conservative base, or they would fall apart and leave room for a truly conservative party to rise up in its place. Would such an idea just end up causing you to throw your vote away? Perhaps, but is that worse then throwing your voice away?

Until we stop worrying more about who's going to win then we do about having our true voices and opinion be heard, we will never get our government back from our corrupt representatives who have taken it from us. Yes, it will be hard to deal with a rubber-stamped Democrat controlled government, but what will be even harder is to deal with is a corrupt congress emboldened by a vote re-instating most of the incumbents after they have clearly shown how little the care about the voice of he people.


Ever since John McCain secured the Republican Party Nominee, I've felt alienated from it. I've also noticed that many others feel the same way. Unfortunately I don't believe the Republican Party has much of a chance at wining very many elections this year; especially after getting falsely blamed by Senator Clinton for the very unpopular "Wall Street Bailout".

The answer to the problems with our government will not be fixed by Obama, despite what he wants us to believe. We all know how well socialism works in the rest of the world. With all the problems he is going to inherit, he, and his Democratic friends, are going to end up looking very bad four years from now; and likely the rest of the nation with it.  How good will traditional conservative values look then?

If the Republicans loose big this election year, they will only come back bigger and better four years from now, or they will be replaced with something else; likely something much better.

- Posted by Spaldam

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Thursday, October 16, 2008

Who will I vote for?

A couple of weeks ago our bishop read a statement about voting in the upcoming elections.  It reiterated the neutrality of the church in regards to political parties, while urging everyone to "to register to vote, to study the issues and candidates carefully and prayerfully, and then to vote for and actively support those you believe will most nearly carry out your ideas of good government."  The LDS Church also affirmed its constitutional right of expression on political and social issues (i.e. Apposing Same Sex Marriage).

So who am I going to vote for?  Obviously I can vote for the arguably most popular candidate among Mormons to appear in this years presidential election, Mitt Romney, and unfortunately for me, he was the only candidate from both major parties that I personally could stand to stomach.  Mitt certainly wasn't my perfect candidate, but then who is?  Probably nobody, until I miraculously get enough experience to feel qualified for the position myself.

So who will I vote for.  Certainly not Barack Hussein Obama as I don't believe the federal government is the right place for all the socialistic ideas he has in mind (maybe he'd be better for Governor of a highly socialized state on the East cost or California).  Does that leave me with John McCain as my only alternative, despite his disregard for truly conservative values?

What about everyone else?  My congressmen voted against the $700 Billion bailout, but I've found myself disappointed with his leadership in so many other ways. Most of the Senators voted for it too. To make a long story short, I don't feel like the current government functionality, nor the two major parities, truly represent me or the kind of government I would like to see (i.e. a much more conservative federal government that does a better job of controlling spending and inflation, while putting the responsibility for social and welfare programs onto the States and local governments with minimal over-sight).  I also see a lot of parallels between our country today, and the Roman Empire before it started it's decline.

The only cure I see for this problem is to let Obama win.  Not because he gets a huge majority of the vote, but rather because McCain looses the conservative vote to alternative parties, proving the distaste the true conservatives now have for the way the Republican party has conducted itself over the last seven years.  This will either destroy the Republican party, making way for a new and truly conservative party, or force the Republican party to come back to it's roots within the truly conservative base.

I feel left having to vote for an alternative party.  The Libertarians will be on the ballot in my area, but I don't feel they really represent my views either.  The Constitution party has been my alternate for many years now, but they were not able to get enough signatures to get on the ballot this year in my state.  Chuck Baldwin will have to be done as a write in, but how does that work in this electronic voting age?  Last time I used the new electronic machines, it didn't give me a place to do a write in, nor did I even have a simple piece of paper to write on.

The only thing I know for sure is that I refuse to vote for any incumbents, that includes Senators McCain and Obama.  I might vote for Sarah Palin, but doing so will not allow my voice to truly be heard as it will actually show up as a vote for McCain.  In other races, I'll have democrats to vote for, giving me an excellent way to vote against the incumbent, but I've never voted for a democrat before, and I don't feel like this is the best time to start.

What I'll probably do is ask them when I show up at the polls how to do a write in.  I'm sure they give me some rhetoric about write-ins having to be registered, so that they show up on the machine anyway (what's the point to doing a write in at that point? - I guess we'll see).  Next, it'll be up to the Libertarians, and possibly writing myself in somewhere if possible.  What's left I might leave blank or perhaps I'll swallow the harsh pill and vote for a democrat in this highly republican controlled state.  Finally I'm voting no on all proposals (especially if it increases my taxes) and no on all judges to make my protest complete.

Am I throwing my vote away?  I don't think so.  I'm trying to get my voice heard, and that is the most important thing we can do when we vote.  Voting for the lesser of two evils will not accomplish this, but rather cause your vice to be drowned out. Both of the major parties will try to scare you out of voting for anyone else.  "A 'third party' or independent vote will only cause the worst of the choices to get elected," is what they will tell you.  I'm sure you've heard it all yourself; I know I have. The truth is that making a decision based on fear is never a good way to make up your mind. Jesus himself said to "Fear not, believe only" (Luke 8: 50). If you believe in having your voice heard, you MUST vote for the person who best represents you; not necessarily the one who has the best chance at winning. To truly "throw you vote away", means you have not had your voice heard the best way it can be.

Near the end of the 1700's being dedicated to a party was equated to loyalty to a private selfish faction that stood in conflict with the public good. These Parties today continue to drive division between Americans, and the last time a major party was replaced by a newer one was when Abraham Lincoln was elected to President as the First Republican Party President. Civil war followed. George Washing himself warned of such loyalties has he voluntarily left office after his second term as President. He easily would have won another term, but he knew of one other truth; absolute power in the hands of imperfect men will certainly corrupt them.

Today we have two parties that hold the vast majority of the political power in the USA, a notion contrary to the principle of separation of powers that the US constitution was designed to prevent. This countries loyalty to these factions has undermined this very principle, and that is the real problem with this country today.  Its time to vote against them, and clean out the corruption in Washington.

Here's is another interesting article on the subject.

- Posted By Seth Hollist

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Thursday, August 21, 2008

The State of the Nation

With almost everyone who was running for president this year talking about socialized medicine, I thought this video from over 40 years ago, warning about the political tides in the US, was very interesting:



We have become too numb to our government programs and bailouts that we have forgotten what this country went through during the cold war, while trying to defeat a country deeply involved in the worst kind of socialism, better known as communism. Yet today we are well on our way to a socialistic government that will continue to tell us more and more of what we can’t do. Or even worse, that we must do things that are morally wrong.

What can we do about it? I'll tell you what I'm going to do about it. I'm going to vote for Chuck Baldwin and anyone else who hasn't yet been tainted by the corruption of Washington Bureaucracies. I believe the USA needs, more then anything a strong message that we have fallen far from our Constitutional roots, and have forgotten how this country came to be thanks to Christian settlers seeking religious freedom. Am I throwing my vote away? I don't think so and here's why:

Why do we keep re-electing people who have an extremely low approval rating? I'll tell you why. It's a matter of fear. I see it every election cycle. Both side trying to scare you out of voting for anyone else. A "third party" or independent vote will only cause the worst choose to get elected, right? Maybe, and I'm sure you've heard all of this before yourself. The truth is that making a decision based on fear is never a good way to live your life. Jesus himself said to "Fear not, believe only" (Luke 8: 50). If you believe in having your voice heard, you MUST vote for the person who best represents you; not necessarily the one who has the best chance at winning. To truly "throw you vote away", means you have not had your voice heard the best way it can be.

If you vote for the lesser of two evils, you'll find yourself getting more evil, but if you vote you conscience, your true beliefs, and even if you don't win, people will take notice when Chuck gets enough votes that his constituents could have given the the person with the second most votes the official win. That party will either slowly fade away while a new party emerges, or they will realize they need to pull back to the Constitutional roots of this country or never win another election.

- Posted by Seth Hollist

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Wednesday, August 6, 2008

Oil Crisis? Why?

Ever Heard of the Bakken Formation? Well you have now.
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911

We actually have a great deal of oil reserves right here in the good old USA. So why aren't we using it? Could it be the same reason the democratically controlled congress has refused time and again to allow energy legislation in this country to even come to a vote?

"On the Senate floor Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) offered several Unanimous Consent requests to lift the ban on offshore drilling for oil. The Democrats objected. Senator McConnell continued to ask, "how much do American citizens have to pay for gas for the Congressional Democrats to change their mind? $4.50? $5.00? $7.50?" Finally Senator McConnell asked if the Democrats would allow a vote if gas prices were to reach $10 a gallon? The Democrats continuously objected and said no!" - https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=AL08H01&f=AL08H01&t=e or https://www.frc.org/get.cfm?i=AL08H01&f=WA08H11

No wonder there approval rating is now at an all time low. - http://www.gallup.com/poll/108856/Congressional-Approval-Hits-RecordLow-14.aspx

Maybe it's truly time for change as Barak Obama has been saying. But in this case, Barak is actually not in favor of change at all. - http://www.gop.com/news/NewsRead.aspx?Guid=24e094b9-da5e-4220-bd43-5c5adf0e2e27

Who is? Well McCain of course. And don't forget the Libertarians, and Constitutionalist; they are certainly for less government and a free market that is able to do its own oil exploration.

I though the Democrats were the party of the "little people", the poor, and the average hard working citizens that are hurting the most because of these high gas prices? Apparently they don't care about the overall inflation in prices we have seen this year especially not these higher gas prices. Do they think they are somehow helping the people by keeping prices high, or are they more concerned about the environmentalists? The same environmentalists that want $5 a gallon gas (can you say "Al").

Personally, I think we are fools to put so much reliance on any other countries for our most basic needs, including food, energy of any kind, and our ability to maintain our own infrastructure and manufacturing capabilities. We need to be more self sufficient, not only as a nation, but also as individuals.

On the other hand, what if oil is the life blood for our planet and we are slowly sucking the life out of it?

- Posted By Spaldam

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Friday, June 27, 2008

The Problem with Politics

I wrote the following in response to a post made on a Political discussion board meant for use by residents of my HOA. The original poster felt there was a need for term limits on Congressmen just as there is for the President.

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What needs to happen is that we need to vote them out, and stop letting Political Parties scar us into not voting for anyone else.

Unfortunately to truly vote someone out and still get a person from the same Political Party that you like means you must get involved in the Primaries and Caucuses. For a country were less then half the population votes regularly, this is asking a lot. Yet when we are offered an alternate choice we get scared of choosing that alternate with ideas such as "throwing your vote away", or letting the worst person win by not voting for the "lesser of two evils".

The real problem with our political system, in my opinion, are the national parties. There is absolutely no Constitutional basis for national parties. Yes I know they are not Constitutionally banned, but they are not necessary either. George Washington, in his fairway address did warn of giving our loyalties to Factions (A word he used to describe a Political Party - see: http://www.liberty1.org/farewell.htm):

"All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction; to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community, and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans, digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests."

What we have today, is the very thing the Constitution of our Country was supposed to prevent, a concentration of power. We have one Faction that has almost complete control over the government, so that it no longer matters that the government is split up in to three branches that are supposed to balance one-another. This one Faction has enough control of all three branches to the point were they can push forward what ever agenda they wish; despite what the Constitution or "Rule of Law" may say. If you think I'm picking on the Democrats, we had the same problem not too long ago with the Republicans too. In both cases, things got done that I found abhorrent, and that allowed the Federal Government to gain power were it has no right.

One reason I believe the two National Parties are so powerful today, is because we have term limits on the President. Instead of voting for the person we fill is best fit for the job, we end up voting for the Political Party that will try to replace the last person we liked that they got elected to that same position.



I received an e-mail from one of my state’s Political Parties inviting me to participate in their national convention as an at-large delegate. Something in that e-mail shocked me, and I realized the true problem with the current political parties.

The e-mail had a list of requirements to be considered for either an at-large or an alternate delegate position. The one requirement that made me realize the true problem with having the average person’s voice heard in a nation party was what I would call “the wealth factor”. To even be considered, you had to give them your credit card information, so they could be certain you could afford to attend the convention. The one week long national delegate process was going to cost anyone who went thousands of dollars in fees, travel, and hotel expenses.

For me, taking a week off work, and spending thousands of dollars in expenses is not something I can easily do without careful planning and saving. I can’t see anyone as middle class as myself going to because it's cost prohibitive; let along someone in the poor house. It became clear to me that the people truly running our national parties are either very dedicated to their party or rich enough, with a flexible enough schedule, to be able to take such a trip. The average person’s voice would never be heard in such a venue, and thus I don’t see how we will ever have a presidential nominee from either of the major national parties that truly understands the average person.

What can we do about this? How can the average person ever expect to be heard when it is clear that the well to do have a monopoly on our national elections process? Who can speak loud enough so that the average person can be heard? Perhaps National Parties are not the best way to elect our most powerful public servant after all?

Near the end of the 1700's being dedicated to a party was equated by some to having loyalty to a private selfish faction that stood to conflict with the public good. George Washing himself warned of such loyalties has he left office after his second term as President. He easily would have won a third term (which was allowed at that time), but he knew of one other truth: That absolute power, in the hands of imperfect men, will thoroughly corrupt anyone. Today we have two parties that hold the vast majority of the political power in the USA, a notion contrary to the principle of separation of powers the USA's constitution sought to prevent. This countries loyalty to these factions has undermined this very principle, and that is the real problem with politics in this country today.

These two parties today continue to drive divisions between Americans, and the last time a major party was replaced by a new one was when Abraham Lincoln was elected as the First Republican Party President. Civil war shortly followed. Perhaps the best thing to do is outlaw national party affiliations all together.

Why do we need national parties anyway? The only political office that has any kind of national vote is the one for the executive office, better know as the President. However, the vote of the people isn't really want elects the president, as it really only determines who the individual states will chose to participate in the electoral collage that actually elects the president. Perhaps what we really need is to have people focus on who they are electing to the electoral collage, and let them do the work the way it was intended to be done; without undue national influence from political parties.



I got an e-mail from the CEO of the company I work for. He was supporting a proposition the local city government was pushing that would get the city into a position of competition with other businesses. I don't want to give to much detail on the specifics of this issue, but what's more important was his reasons for supporting the proposition. He sighted what benefits it would have to the company and how it would help the company save money. he didn't care about the unfair competition it would create, or the tax payers that would likely end up paying for a big portion of if. It gave me another reason to believe that there's a big problem with our political system in America today. Big business and Big government are too eager to scratch each others backs, and help each other out, that they forget that they are stepping on you an me in the process.

That same company also keeps telling us employees how a week dollar is good for the companies bottom line. Another good example why our politicians need to pay more attention to the people who actually elect them, and not the companies who can afford to send lobbyists to Washington D.C. and/or Capitol hill go get their own agendas pushed forward. I've been tool after all that it's the small businesses that make up most of the economy.

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Saturday, April 26, 2008

Separation of Church and State

When people think of the First Amendment to The Constitution of the United States of America they often think of words such as, “separation of church and state”, or “Freedom of Speech”, or of the press, or of religion; however one of these phrases doesn't actually show up on the First Amendment, or anywhere else in The Constitution. What it does say is:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”
You can only find one other statement regarding religion within The U.S. Constitution, in Article Six, Third Clause:
“ . . . no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
Does all of this really equate to a “separation of church and state?”

On the one hand, we have a statement basically saying we cannot allow religion to be a qualifier for becoming a public servant. On the other hand, we have a statement saying we have to allow people to exercise their religion freely. They can almost be seen as contradictory to each other, but if we really look at them in context, we find that they are in fact completely unrelated.

The one that was part of the original constitution, in Article Six, is actually only in relation to the election of public officers; which it clearly says in the beginning of the Third clause, saying it relates to:
“. . . Senators and Representatives . . . Members of the several State Legislatures . . . all executive and judicial Officers . . . of the United States and of the several States . . . “
This means this clause has no relation or influence upon what goes on in our public schools, or even local city governments. In fact it is only meant to protect the election of State and Federal officers from exclusion from office due to religious understanding, religious knowledge, or even religious affiliations. It also protects them from having to prove an absence of religious beliefs, and does nothing to bar them from allowing their religious beliefs from influencing the way they deal with their position as a public officer. This is actually were The Bill of Rights comes in.

When it comes to The Bill of Rights, people often like to interpret it by quoting the “founding fathers”; however, this is inappropriate because the Bill of Rights was actually passed many years after the founding fathers had written The U.S. Constitution and established The United States of America. In fact many of the founding fathers were in opposition to the Bill of Rights because they didn’t like how it limited the powers of the federal government. That’s right, some of the founding fathers wanted a stronger federal government with weaker states rights; however the Bill of Rights won out to become a protection for the rights of the States and the people (see Amendment 9 and 10 specifically).

As part of this protection of state and personally freedoms, we were actually guaranteed (or at least we should be) protection from the Federal government from passing any laws that would either favor or discourage any specific religion. It also insures the individual the free exercise of their religious beliefs. Just as important, in this same amendment, you’ll find the insurance of our freedom to speak; including about our religious beliefs, so if someone says they are offended by what you are saying, I suggest telling them you are offended by their lack of respect for your right to speech. After all, your right to speech is protected, and you actually have no constitutional protection from being offended.

In fact your rights to free speech only ends when it starts to endanger the life or livelihood of another, so before you go off and start yelling and screaming threw the streets all kind of profanities in the middle of the night, keep in mind that the ability to speak does not require yelling and screaming or even offensive language. It also doesn’t mean you have a right to disturbed the peace, say things that prevent others from exercising their rights, nor does it give you a free pass to cause panic or tyranny within or towards others.

The real question at this point is were did the words “separation of church and state” come from in the first place, and why it is becoming so easily used today to prevent our kids from having a religious influence on them within our public schools; while at the same time it’s becoming so much harder to keep kids in public schools in line and under control. That phrase has been used to prevent praying in schools, talking about the social and historical significance of many religious influences and texts within our schools, from exploring alternate theories to many scientific ideas, and even to prevent our kids from taking part in reciting a pledge that helps instill a sense of national unity and pride.

So where did it actually come from? It’s not in The Constitution, it’s not in any laws that I’m aware of, and if it were, I would consider it to be an unconstitutional law. The truth is that those words were actually derived from, though not actually a part of, of a United States Supreme Court ruling made in 1947 In the case of Everson v. Board of Education. As part of the ruling, Justice Hugo Black gave his interpretation of the First Amendment, saying:

“The First Amendment has erected a wall between church and state. That wall must be kept high and impregnable. We could not approve the slightest breach.”

Although this statement is very strongly worded, much more so then I can agree with, the actual ruling was only meant to prevent any aid or benefit to a religion from governmental actions, a sentiment that I actually agree with; unless the benefit is equally and easily available to all religions, such as allowing tax exemption for religious establishments based on their non-profit status.

Unfortunately this statement has since been abbreviated into the phrase “Separation of Church and State” and taken to also mean that government cannot get any aid or benefit from any religious actions; which is something I completely disagree with, and for which there is no supporting evidence of within The Constitution. In fact I believe the constitution says just the opposite, as preventing a religious action from taking place within government would actually be preventing the free exercise of religion; something very specifically protected within the First Amendment.

Please note, I said “religious action”, not “religious organization”. While I see no problem with personal religious actions within government, and have shown how those actions are constitutionally protected, there however is no place for any organization, religious or otherwise, to be taking actions within the government. Such actions are the soul responsibility of the officials who were elected by the people they represent, and relinquishing those responsibilities to any organization or unelected persons, I would see as being a treasonous act.

If religion truly was not allowed to be involved in government, then why have so many presidents sworn the oath of office, to protect The Constitution, while laying their hand on a copy of The Bible? Why then does The Constitution actually have references to religious beliefs? The Constitution even acknowledges Sunday as a day of rest in the Article One, Section Seven:

"If any bill shall not be returned by the President within ten days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the same shall be a law . . .”

The Constitution also has a reference to the Lord Jesus Christ as found in Article Seven just prior to the signatures:

“ . . . in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and eighty seven . . ."

The Declaration of Independence is even more obvious in it’s declaration of a God, especially in the first and second paragraphs where it says:

“ . . . to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them. . .”
“ . . . [men] are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights. . .”

[For full text see: http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/charters.html]

Certainly without the declaration of independence there would be no Constitution, and as such it is vitally important to acknowledge The Declaration of Independence as a sort of moral code of The United States of America. It is in fact the very justification for the very existence of The United States of America.

While it is important that we do not allow our government to get involved in our religions, it is important that we acknowledge the roll God should have within our government. It certainly shouldn’t be an overbearing roll, but we are a nation based on Judeo-Christian beliefs, with many laws based on the ten commandments, and the further we get away from those values, the closer we get to a divided and dysfunctional nation.

We do, however, need to be fair in our public dealing with religion. As such I do not believe it is appropriate for any organization, including religious, to be heavily involved in a public school system. On the other hand I certainly wouldn’t turn down any charitable donations meant to help enhance the educational experience, such as a donation of supplies or equipment, but I would probably turn down a truckload of books or manuals that were specific only to religious teachings. I wouldn’t turn down volunteers just because of their religious affiliations, and would allow students to take a regularly designated class period off for religious reasons.

More importantly, however, is that students should be allowed to pray, mediate, or recite their favorite list of beliefs while in school if they choose to do so at appropriate times; such expressions are after all protected by the First Amendments “Freedom of Speech” clause. What I wouldn’t allow is for such practices to interfere with the classroom instruction, but I would like to see public schools teaching theories of Creationism when theories of Evolution are presented; as well as seeing Social Studies and History classes including factual information on all major religions and their roles in society and history.

I would like to see Congress and other governing bodies, offering a prayer before every meeting so that they may lead in ways that will best benefit us the people, allow us to prosper, along with helping other nations to do the same. But most importantly I would like to see the increasing pattern of religious bigotry and hatred stopped. If you are offended by it, then I suggest you try remembering that the Constitution does not protect you from offense, but it does protect your right to talk about it, just as it protects the right of those offensive words to be said.

- Posted By Seth Hollist

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Tuesday, March 20, 2007

Mormons in Politics

It's amazing that even in today’s society of "political correctness" and tolerance, that so many people would make such a big deal about Mitt Romney (see mittromney.com for more information about him). I guess when you running for president, everything about you becomes a big deal, but the last time a presidential candidates religion became such a big deal was with JFK, one of the most beloved presidents in recent history.

Why do evangelicals feel so threatened by the "Mormons"? Is it the approximately 6 million of them within the United states, making up less than 2% of the population? Obviously Mitt will need a much larger portion of the population on his side then that to become president (I even know a handful of politically active "Mormons" that aren't supporting him). Is it the fact that His church has grown significantly is less than 200 years? Probably not, since many evangelical churches in America got started around the same time, and have grown to be much larger.

I have another theory. People are afraid of the unknown and things that are very different from what they are used to. Satan also loves it when we fear things that are good and true, and will do all he can to encourage such fears. One of the biggest differences is that "Mormons" have a different view of the Godhead that most other Christians consider blasphemy. Mainly that God is not some incomprehensible being, but rather our Heavenly Father with an immortal body of flesh and bone, similar in appearance to our own. This belief comes from Joseph Smith's own testimony about God and Jesus Christ.

To contrast this most evangelicals get their view of the Godhead from the traditional Catholic beliefs developed threw debates had during the First Council of Nicaea, and First Council of Constantinople. It has also since been updated from time to time.

I purpose here really isn't to depute religious theology, but rather to understand why a nation founded on freedom, and especially religious freedom, would disqualify someone because of their faith. Mitt Romney himself said that his religious convictions and beliefs will not interfere with the role of government. He understands the importance of keeping them separated, and stated that when his oath to the office, performed with his hand on the bible, will become is number one top commitment to God. He also rightly stressed the importance of religious tolerance and promised that he would not focus on particular beliefs, but rather the moral convictions that America has traditionally upheld.

So the real question is, would you vote for a candidate who best represents you, and just happens to be a "Mormon"? Many people apparently have as “Mormons” have been involved in government for a long time, and not just in Utah but in almost every state in the Union to varying degrees, within Congress, and even within the White House in a number of different capacities. Not to mention “Mormons” in other countries; especially since there are now more “Mormons” outside the US in then in it.

The first woman state senator elected in the United States was Dr. Mattie Hughes Paul Cannon (UT) in 1896, and the first woman elected to the U.S. Senate who was neither the wife nor the daughter of a politician was Paula Hawkins (FL) in 1980. Both where "Mormons"!

"Mormons" have served as governors of California (Culbert Olson and Goodwin Knight) and Michigan (George W. Romney). In 1952 two "Mormons" were serving in the U.S. House of Representatives and two in the U.S. Senate. In 1991 there were nine "Mormon" representatives and one nonvoting territorial delegate in the House and three Latter-day Saints in the Senate.

Prior to 1952, no Latter-day Saint had served as a federal judge. Since then, eleven have been appointed to federal district courts and four to appeals courts.

Ronald Reagan's administration also included over a dozen "Mormons".

In 2004 more than 5% of elected representatives in congress were Mormons, including the Democratic leader Harry Reid.

- Posted by S.J. Hollist

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Thursday, September 1, 2005

Seth.Hollist.org Moves to Spaldam's Rants

I've found myself unable to keep my seth.hollist.org web-page up to date, so I've decided to re-direct it here and help contribute to "Spaldam's Rants". If I find anything special that I want to draw particular attention to, I'll try to add a link to it on the side-bar from the main page; but be sure to check out all of the great information on this blog. I also have a couple of items I'll be keeping on my web-page that you can see listed bellow. What is bellow is a similitude as to what my web-pages home page used to look like. I chose to publish this post as September of 2005 because that's probably the last time I really updated my main web-page.



The best government is self-government or in other words, freedom to chose for ourselves, and understanding the natural laws that God has set forth. I regularly check up on my elected officials to see what they're doing with our freedoms, and write them letters regularly. I'm a very big support of The Constitution, and strongly believe to fully understand it one must study our forefathers and understand the language and word meanings used at the time. I also believe the Declaration of Independence is the moral foundation for the Constitution, and to understand The Constitution, one must understand this declaration. These two documents are the foundation of our country, and if we allow it to be left open to interpretation it will only serve to make for an unstable foundation. Any house built on an unstable foundation is doomed to fall.

My dissertation on the United States Constitution.

Will I ever run for public office? Very much probably. As for now I have a young family to provide for and enjoy as I watch my kids grow up. Maybe once the kids are old enough to be on their own, and I get frustrated enough with the state of our government (sometimes I think I'm there) then I will. In the mean time I'll do what I can to learn about and watch history unfold while helping others, through this blog, to understand how our governments meddling affects our lives in ways I know I'd much rather not have.



Check out some of my other posts on this blog:

Seth Hollist for Public Office

Bad Gun Laws

Affirmative Action Abolished

The Importance of Self Governance



My commentary on the 2009 Presidential Inauguration


- Posted by Seth Hollist

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